Beyond Listening to The Voice of The Customer / Employee

Customer gurus and technology companies push the need for the company to listen to the voice of the customer. Many companies, especially large companies, buy what they are selling. Indeed, it makes sense: listen to the voice of the customer through some manner of surveying customers seems complimentary to conducting regular market research.

HR gurus and technology companies push the need for the company to listen to the voice of the employee. In the service of this sale frightening soundbites are put forward about the state of employee engagement – disengagement is rife and getting worse. What happens, organisations set up once a year surveys of their employees in order to listen to their employees.  Ok, some do it twice a year. Maybe, a handful do it quarterly.

Is this listening?  You may be convinced that this is listening. I do not find myself in agreement with you. I say that listening is a specific encounter between one human being and another human being or human beings.  I say that listening really takes something – it takes a dropping of the self to enter into and get the world of the other. I say that listening rarely occurs inside and outside the workplace – we simply do not have cultural practices that teach us to listen nor call us to listen.

For a moment, let’s assume that surveying customers and/or employees is listening to customers / employees. Is this listening complete?  Put differently, have your heard all that your customers / employees are saying?  Before you come to a definitive answer I consider the following:

When a man whose marriage was in trouble sought his advice, the Master said, “You must learn to listen to your wife.”

The man took this advice to heart and returned after a month to say that he had learned to listen to every word his wife was saying.

The Master smiled and replied, “Now go home and listen to every word she isn’t saying.”

Be with this for a moment. Doesn’t the profound truth of this hit you?  One can listen at many levels for the speaking is occurring at many levels AND to truly listen to another person it is necessary to listen to the speaking that is silent.

I invite you to consider the following:

  1. Listening to the voice of the customer and/or the voice of the employee through surveying is the pretence of listening. It is not listening.
  2. Even the best designed survey will not give you access to the speaking that is silent.
  3. Listening of the kind that really hears can only take place when you genuinely respect and care for the person you are listening to.  At a very minimum it requires a deep sense / feel of our shared humanity.
  4. The only real world evidence that listening has occurred is a change in the way that you/your organisation is in the world. By “is” I mean the way that one shows up and travels in the world: being-doing.
  5. Good strategists, leaders, managers, sales people, customer service folk have to be great at listening to the silent speaking.

I thank you for your listening and wish you a good day. Until the next time…

 

 

How To Transform Your Organisation By Centring On The Customer

I’d like to re-start blogging by sharing with you what shows up for me as a most enlightening and inspiring tale of leadership, customer-centricity, and organisational transformation.  Let’s start.

I encourage you to listen to Dr David Feinberg tell his story

When Dr. David Feinberg arrived at UCLA’s executive suite, the majority of patients said they wouldn’t recommend the hospital to a friend — even if the hospital saved their lives. He went on to transform the organisation. How did he go about it? I’ve listened to his story and I say it is well worth listening to him because it is a story from the man who has lived the experience – not an academic, not a guru, not a consultancy…..

You can find out by listening to Dr Feinberg share his story.  If you are not in a position to listen to his story then I have extracted the following highlights for you and me. Please note this post is long and it will reward only those with a genuine interest in leadership, customer-centricity, and organisational transformation.  Let’s start.

He started by talking with and listening to customers every day and in person

“What I did, and what I have done every day over the last six years, I went up and met with our patients… I knocked on the door ‘Hi, I’m Dr Feinberg. Can I sit down?’ And I’d ask how the care was, how were things going. I did this for 2 to 3 hours every day for the first three months.”

What did Dr Feinberg learn from his talks with patients? He says he learnt two important lessons:

1.  “At UCLA we perform miracles…. We do very high end high touch stuff”

2.  “The compassionate side we were missing. No-one [patients] knew who was in charge of their care. Nobody knew what was coming next in their care…… hot food that was never hot, cold fold that was never cold. The place was dirty. Two thirds, despite us saving their lives, would not refer us to a friend.”

Was Dr Feinberg or the UCLA hospital system under any pressure to make any changes? “After eight days in the job, US News and World Report changed our ranking from 5th best to the 3rd best hospital.”

So why did Dr Feinberg end up taking a stand, being a leader, making changes and eventually transforming the organisation? On the very day that UCLA moved from 5th best to 3rd best he met a patient who told him that he could not get a bed pan. As Dr Feinberg says, when you need a bad pen you need a bed pan!

Dr Feinberg comes face to face with complacency and ridicule

“I talked to the team. Why do we not have enough wheelchairs and bed pans?”

Their response? “We can never be like those other places. We are an academic medical centre, we are about curing ….. these are minor issues.”

Dr Feinberg goes on to shares his encounter with a 16 year old girl dying of leukaemia:

“Met a sixteen year old girl dying of leukaemia. The tv did not work in her room… did not have lot of family.. soap operas were her connection to the outside world… developmental age of 12 due to illness. Went back to the executive suite ‘We got to get the tv fixed upstairs! They laughed at me and gave me a screwdriver.”

Exercising leadership and focusing on patient

“After about three months of doing this I said ‘We’re going to focus on the patient. We’re going to take are of patients the way I want my family to be cared for.'”

How did the rest of the team react to this stance, this declaration, this exercise of leadership? “People looked at me as if I was crazy and said ‘We should have never hired a psychiatrist… We’ve done customer training before, I’ve got the coffee mug. Why are we doing this again?'”

Focusing on one thing and exercising leadership by living the stand

Faced with this resistance and being in the role only as an interim, Dr Feinberg sought advice. “Mentor of mine told me stay focused. Stay focused on one thing. And that can be something you can drive through the organisation.”

What did Dr Feinberg do? He lived his stand, he became a living example of the desired commitment and behaviours.  “I got the girl’s tv fixed. I helped patients to the commode. I went down to the pharmacy to get meds. I pushed patients in wheelchairs. And I still pick up trash all the time.”

Results: great accomplishment or cream of the crap?

“Went from 38th percentile to 99th percentile on question of would you refer us to a friend. Six thousand hospitals in the USA, we’re ranked at the very top…… academic-teaching hospitals, we’re ranked No1 on would you refer us to a friend.”

When I heard this, this statistic showed up as a fantastic accomplishment. What does Dr Feinberg say about this accomplishment?

“That actually sucks. To get 99th percentile on patient satisfaction, in my industry, 85 out of 100 checked the box. So, I say we are the cream of the crap. We now have brand new buildings. We have got great structure and customer service programmes that we developed over the last five or six years to sustain this. We’re making lots of money. We have the best doctors and nurses in the country. And yet out of the last 100 people we’ve taken care of, fifteen of them would not refer us to a friend.

By definition these fifteen people are somebody’s mom, somebody’s brother, a child, a co-worker, a parent etc. Occasionally you meet people with unrealistic expectations maybe 1 or 2 out of the fifteen, but the other thirteen or fourteen people are like you and me..

My journey hasn’t stopped at all…. Still have a long way to go to get 99 out of 100 people, not 99th percentile, telling us how great we’ve done. “

On turning a vacuous mission statement into a meaningful-compelling one

“About five years ago … I don’t know what our mission statement was. It was something like ‘We’re UCLA. aren’t you lucky you get to see us’ cause that’s how we acted. We changed that ‘Our purpose is to heal mankind one patient at a time. And we do that by alleviating suffering, promoting health, and delivering acts of kindness.”

Is the reference to acts of kindness just marketing or CEO fluff?  Dr Feinberg shared the example of a grandmother dying of cancer whilst her daughter was delivering in San Francisco. The nursing staff, without asking for permission, flew in the daughter so that the granddaughter could be held by grandmother before she passed away.

What was the business impact of this mission?  Dr Feinberg mentions that UCLA has the ability to recruit and retain the best. And “deliver incredible volumes [of patients] to our institution”.

Flip it: shifting from provider-centric to customer-centric orientation

“I really believe if we get it right in  the room with the patient, that everything else will take care of itself….. The way we thought at UCLA … the illness didn’t begin until they got to us. Really the illness begins after that family when mom might have cancer or when the elderly parent falls. I think it’s our job to engage with our patients in a way that we connect with them from the second they call us until they are back in girls scouts, back doing their work, or back living independently.

What we had done historically, in healthcare, is create times when you came to see us in the medical profession and we used you as inventory and lined you up. And it was what we would call provider centric instead of patient centric.

So we are changing our waiting rooms…. Patients who come to see us will have a smart card on their dashboard. So when they come to see us, we know we have four minutes to get ready before they arrive upstairs. And we’ll have the room ready before they get upstairs. And the waiting room will be for the doctors waiting to see the patient. Patient will be in the room.

When you just flip it and take it as the view of the patient it becomes really clear what you need to do.

When we have clinic retreats now, when we talk with leadership, we never start a meeting without a patient being present and holding us to accountable.”

Breakdowns: what happens when staff members hear directly from the customer?

The access to breakthroughs is provided by breakdowns. Dr Feinberg seems to have an intuitive understanding of this.  In his talk he tells the story of 63 year old woman who turns up at UCLA at 2am in the morning. Here is the sequence of events:

2am – she turns up at emergency centre with abdominal pain.  Scans are done on her. She is told that she needs to have her gall bladder removed. Husband is sent home and asked to come back for 6am. He leaves the hospital taking his wife’s purse and coat.

Medical staff re-read the scans, determine the woman is OK and tell her she can go home. She asks for a taxi voucher to get home (9 miles away) as husband has already left with her purse. She is told she doesn’t qualify. She finds a few dollars in her sweater and takes taxi part way home.

Husband meets her half way and drives her home. On reaching home, phone rings and UCLA asks her to come back in for surgery: UCLA have re-read her scan and determined this is an emergency. Husband and wife drive back to UCLA where her gall bladder is successfully removed.

In recovery, she is asked to sign a consent form – to be tested for HIV. Why? UCLA made mistake: used a syringe on her that they had used on a previous patient. Test comes back negative.

What does Dr Feinberg have to say on the matter?

“Talk about this a provider centric way… we did a phenomenal job! We took out her gall bladder successfully. We didn’t give her an infection. But if you thought about that as your mom, how pissed off are you?

I brought together everybody who had anything to do with her care: valet parking, emergency room, transporters, social work, OR staff, ER staff, everyone from billing, collecting and IT….. She came in and told her story… She tells it a lot better than I do, there’s a lot more feeling….

What happens when these people hear the actual patient? Incredible things happen in the organisation. Nobody will ask twice for a taxi voucher at UCLA again. We had all kinds of policies about how not to use syringes twice….But now because her story is connected to it, I go to bed at night really believing that there’s a greater chance that we’re not going to mess up. There’s a real sense that that person and that face is connected to everything we do.

Did Dr Feinberg follow best practice: devise a strategy, follow a formulaic model, develop plans and then execute? 

“The journey has included a lot of changes and it sounds like we know what we were doing. I want to tell you that I had no idea what I was doing. I do know that we were focussed on getting it right for that very next patient”

Other lessons

Dr Feinberg points out the critical importance of:

1. selecting the right talent in the right way. In particular, he points out the need to recruit people  who are both competent AND have the service mindset; 

2. codifying and communicating the expected behaviours during the induction (on boarding) process; and

3. rigorously measuring and communicating performance against these behaviours.

On the second point, he states that UCLA clearly spell out and train their staff on:

– how to go in and introduce yourself to a patients;

– how you ask permission before you touch patients;

– how you explain what is coming next;

– how you tell patients when you’re leaving and do they have any questions.

“In the past it was you’re a nurse, your a doctor come on in and take care of the patient. No patient at UCLA gets touched without permission, everybody introduces themselves, everybody gives their name and cellphone number.

I give my cellphone number out probably 100 times a day to patients and say call me 24 hours a day if there’s anything that I can do to assist you and your family.

We don’t always get it right, there are plenty of challenges that face us. I do believe being centred around the patient is the right way to go.”